Intelligent CISO Issue 15 | Page 53

COVER STORY business people that is important to the group. At the same time, I need to be a good people manager, making sure my team is growing, getting the training and appropriate engagements needed. How do you approach talking to the board – proving ROI is a challenge, how do you deal with that? At board level, you should find the best time to give the message. Sometimes for cybersecurity there’s limited resources and time for giving presentations. One of the key challenges is that I need to have a crisp message in a very short format. If it goes well, then it will open up longer discussions. It means that there is a real importance in grabbing their attention while you have the chance to push forward a wider discussion. For ROI, one of the good examples is cyberawareness. How can you make sure that awareness is something which makes a long-term difference and make an impact? If you have an investment for checking certain cybersecurity measurements you should prove that it is getting better and I think that, for all CISOs, this is a big challenge. I am very keen to ensure we have a diverse workforce (male/female). I think that the more diverse the workforce, the more value offered to the company. Communication is very important for CISOs but what other advice would you give to people who would like to be in your position? What kind of data does the company need to secure? I think the most important advice is that the CISO role is there to support the business and so you really do need to understand the business requirements. We are an oil and gas company so we are working on downstream, upstream as well as consumer-related data. What about the role of a CISO? How has that changed? Even during my period [as CISO], I can feel changes. While my previous bosses were technology focused, what I feel is that I now need to be more business agile, more understanding of the business and how it works and how can I find the right solution for the www.intelligentciso.com | Issue 15 Secondly, try not to threaten people. Try not to show that it is going to be the end of the world. You should find the business need and then deep dive into the cyber issue. What in your view are the big threats right now? Cybersecurity intrusions like ransomware activities. Then, a huge challenge not just for us but for everyone, are the At board level, you should find the best time to give the message. Sometimes for cybersecurity there’s limited resources and time for giving presentations. phishing related threats. Also, making sure all PII and consumer and business data is protected. Can you talk about any recent technology deployments or how you’ve worked with RSA Security for example? RSA is one of the main vendors within our organisation, supporting cybersecurity detection response capabilities. We leveraged RSA’s technical, as well as procedural expertise, concerning IT and OT cybersecurity. Together we developed multiple MOL specific, tailored frameworks which enables us to bring our MOL environment to the next level, making sure that we protect and cover the important risk areas. How important is collaboration in cybersecurity? I think everybody has the urge to collaborate with each other. We are in a good place and have certain connections and we should support each other. Even if people might think somebody is losing some competitive advantage because of sharing information, if you do it in a proper collaborative way you will only see the benefit. u 53