GO PHISH
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WE ‘GO PHISHING’ WITH JAMES HADL
IDE
IMMERSIVE LABS, WHO TELLS US ABOUT LIFE INS
AND OUTSIDE THE OFFICE.
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What would you describe as your
most memorable achievement in
the cybersecurity industry?
Labs
Without a doubt, having Immersive
on)
(CyL
don
accepted into the Cyber Lon
t
mos
the
was
me
accelerator program
a
memorable achievement for me. As
ng
havi
n,
visio
and
idea
an
of
der
foun
dreds
industry experts who’ve seen hun
that
ide
dec
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licat
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of pitches and
n fit
visio
and
uct
prod
s’
Lab
ve
ersi
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in
the market gave me a huge boost
t
wha
in
f
belie
me
confidence. It gave
we
and
–
ome
bec
ld
cou
s
Lab
ve
Immersi
haven’t slowed down since.
What first made you think of a
career in cybersecurity?
a
I was (and to some extent still am)
t
byis
hob
and
k’
computer security ‘gee
to
s
way
find
to
g
tryin
who enjoyed
nate
bypass security controls. I was fortu
old,
s
year
18
enough to join GCHQ at
I completely trust my
team to do the right
thing to grow the
business as quickly
as possible.
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in
which quickly turned into a career
then
was
t
wha
in
security research
Communications -Electronic Security
ing
Group (CESG) . After delivering train
s,
year
of
ber
at GCHQ in cyber for a num
for
field
the
in
ing
I’ve now been work
nearly 20 years.
What style of management
philosophy do you employ with
your current position?
I’m not sure I can
define my management
philosophy as a ‘type’,
but I completely trust
my team to do the
right thing to grow the
business as quickly
as possible. The team
are encouraged to try
new things and take
risks. I would rather
we tried 10 initiatives at once
s
and then back one or two great idea
that
s
one
the
from
n
lear
and
that worked
ul.
essf
succ
as
n’t
were
What do you think is the current
hot cybersecurity talking point?
The cyberskills gap has to be the
biggest concern now and into the
future. Over the last 10 years, too
in
much investment has been made
ise
prom
that
s
boxe
ic
mag
products and
re.
secu
e
mor
tion
nisa
orga
an
e
to mak
gies
The problem is that these technolo
staff
l
nica
tech
require a multitude of
to configure and operate, which has
’t
created a huge skills deficit that hasn
l.
leve
any
been properly addressed at
Organisations
are now realising
that more
rily the answer.
essa
nec
isn’t
gy
technolo
t
The requirements of building a grea
e
thos
g
security team and equippin
have
individuals with current cyberskills
da.
agen
moved up the
How do you deal with stress and
unwind outside the office?
ss
I find water and lakes a great stre
me
for
kend
wee
reliever. A perfect
a lake
would involve being abandoned in
nd.
arou
s
mile
for
else
ne
no-o
with
house
two
and
However, I’m not sure my wife
winding
children would feel the same, so
des
inclu
s
time
of
lot
down for me a
wine.
walking the dog and too much red
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