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WE ‘ GO PHISHING ’ WITH ERIC FOURRIER , GITGUARDIAN CEO , WHO TELLS US ABOUT
LIFE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE OFFICE .
How did you get interested in cybersecurity ? product person , you ’ re the sales engineer , you ’ re doing design , a lot of individual contributor work .
It just really happened on the fly . I started my career as a Machine Learning engineer or data scientist , whatever title you prefer . I was supposed to implement AI into products and was working with other data scientists . I saw a lot of bad practices from data scientists ; bad stuff in terms of coding style and also coding security . And I was pushed to thinking “ Okay , how can I help my fellow data scientists and software engineers write more secure code ?”
I loved writing code and there ’ s a point in the journey where , as a technical leader , you stop writing code . That took me a few years . It is a tough experience , and many CTOs never succeed at stepping away from that . The farther removed they get from the day-to-day of the engineering teams , the more they can get out of sync with the teams ’ coding standards and practices . Luckily for my technical teams , I recognised that and stepped back .
GitGuardian started as a side project just to see how I could use the largest publicly available training database for code , which is GitHub , to try to find vulnerabilities in code . I started with scanning for secrets and it went from there .
What has been your favorite challenge of growing a start-up ?
I will say learning to scale , which for me was also learning to help people learn . As you scale with a lot of people , you still need to help them ramp up , teach them how the company works , our values , how our product works , how we sell our product , our marketing message and really try to scale the learning experience . As we ’ ve grown , I ’ ve gotten further from the process , but still , my favorite part is helping people to learn and get better .
How has your role changed in the growth from 20 to 120 employees ?
Early , as Co-founder and CTO , the C in the title doesn ’ t mean much . You ’ re pushing code , you ’ re the
I got more involved with sales and marketing , which I honestly believe helped make me a better leader in understanding how our technical decisions impact customers . But as I had to spend more time on defining and driving the vision , focusing on growth and execution at scale , I had to trust in my VPs and other leaders and be able to delegate to them .
What is the biggest security challenge you believe the C-suite needs to keep their eye on , in the next few years ?
Cyberthreats are growing , but a lot of leaders still see security as a cost centre , like a tax . Customers , especially with all the recent software supply chain attacks , just want to work with vendors that are secure . I really believe in the future ; every company will have a kind of security score and people will consider it seriously before they do business with you .
The challenge is to switch from a mindset where security is seen , as I said , as a source of cost and maybe as an insurance policy to it being a selling
I loved writing code and there ’ s a point in the journey where , as a technical leader , you stop writing code . That took me a few years .
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